Tulpa.info - meditation

shrugs then it must not be a good place for you

indeed

8:04 PM

which is why i stopped doing it and moved onto my couch baby

i find my bed is usually the best place

my bed sinks so i don't both with it, makes the leggies hurt

that's suck

ur suck

8:08 PM

jk love you

okay then

❤

8:15 PM

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Meditation is really a nice way to get into the zone.

the SEX ZONE

that's like so far away from what we were talking about man

i know

here we are coming together for personal progress

8:17 PM

that's a little too far

8:17 PM

if you wanna joke around #lounge or #general-chat is perfect

I just finished meditation cried a bit

Oh?

Yeah.

12:56 AM

I really hit my compassion (edited)

So I never came here but

2:28 AM

What your tips on mediating

2:28 AM

Wait

2:28 AM

Meditating

Is it weird that I think meditation is the only way to help make my Tulp at this point? I bet I'm not even meditating properly, but still

Nope there r other ways but if that's what works best for u then go ahead

Hmmm, fair enough. I'm still curious if I'm even doing it right though, since all I do is put on some calming loop and just stay still and try not to think.

I'm sure there are plenty of guides available for proper meditation, narration seems to be one of the key parts of developing your tulpa so that would probably be something to consider doing

I don't know what narration is.

talking to your tulpa about pretty much anything

Hmm, well that's the weird thing here. She's not vocal yet, and I don't know if she's actually in there.

5:44 PM

Well, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if she were in there, but still.

Speak to her like she is there

mine's not vocal either, but i talk to her almost for the entire day

I mean, that does sound like a good idea. And now that I think about it I'm not sure if she's vocal or not. I'm not trying to rush it though.

it's actually quite relaxing, it's probably the only reason i'm still sane something completely off topic: your name wouldn't be Ray by any chance?

Ah, you picked up on that. It's not though.

oh

5:47 PM

then what's the RAY for?

Well, you know how light comes in, well, rays? (edited)

oh ok

Ye.

makes sense

Still, just gonna keep doin what I'm doin. Seems like it's working anyway.

i'm not sure if it's working, but i'm staying optimistic

Fair enough

but, something tells me it might not be working, cause I don't do any active forcing, instead I passive force for as much as I possibly can

I'm not forcing at all, sooooo

5:51 PM

And I've not forced as well.

5:51 PM

Not even exactly sure what forcing is.

Readmoar

visualizing, narrating etc.

5:52 PM

but yeah, you should probably read more

Nah readins stupid

Trying to create a tulpa with only the knowledge of what a tulpa is will only be a detriment to yourself

5:53 PM

And it will take much longer

if you don't put in effort, you could make very slow progress, if any at all

Well, I've already been doing stuff for 8 months.

5:54 PM

Not that long considering what I wanna get out of it.

hmm

what kind of stuff?

That's kind of also what I was wondering

Well, I want a genuine person out of it. Not something that I can influence, if that makes sense.

That is what a tulpa is by definition. (edited)

but that's what a tulpa is, the only real difference between them and a real person, is that you're the only one that can see them

^this

Hmmm.

5:57 PM

I'm pretty sure what I'm doing is different from making a Tulpa though, since I myself am not putting much effort into the process.

you don't hang out?

Mmm no.

yeah, then your probably doing absolutely nothing

Doubt

why don't you hang out?

'Cause I don't think that'll help tbh.

but you haven't exactly answered my question, what do you do?

Well, other than some work on the body and meditation, I've not consciously done much.

so you have worked on their form, that's something, but I doubt they're even close to being sentient meditation works, but only as something to help you, it doesn't do anything by itself

Well I'm pretty sure you're wrong on the "not even close to sentient" bit, gonna be honest.

6:04 PM

And I think meditation does help for what I'm trying to achieve, which is something very hands-off.

are they interacting with you? how do you know?

it's just my opinion based off what i've read, I could be completely wrong (edited)

I hate to distract too much from the conversation you all are having, but would you all mind moving over to the beginners channel with this?

Well, I think I've had one interaction, but I can't be certain, cause I wasn't in the right mind when it happened.

6:05 PM

Alright, yeah, lets

Here might be a question for this channel. What would you all say might be the difference between meditating and just sitting in a room and letting your thoughts go wild?

I think many people would consider the latter a form of meditation

11:44 PM

so nothing

That must mean you meditate in the shower every time you enter it.

I sing in the shower so

1:46 AM

I talk to Charlie in the shower lol

1:46 AM

He’s pretty shy usually, but it’s easier to get a response from him in certain environments

@Reguile Depends on what you mean by meditation. There's two that I consider, that I normally do; focused (mindful?) meditation and mindfulness meditation.

2:29 AM

With mindfulness, it's essentially thinking on nothing but everything at the same time. Like, easiest way to do it is to observe (but don't control) your breathing; just doing that indefinitely. When you notice your thoughts going somewhere, you observe it as an object of consciousness (sometimes I just give it a category or a color) without thinking on it too much more, then gently guide my concentration / focus back to my breathing.

2:30 AM

During mindfulness, you basically are observing - the way you feel on the chair, the way the air feels on your skin, etc., but without actually thinking on anything too much. You'll find your mind wondering all the time (for me it can be under a minute) but the key is, once you realize it's wondered, you just let it go and go back to mindfulness.

2:31 AM

Focused meditation is more akin to more what we do when tulpaforcing. You're meditating on something with a specific goal in mind. You also have things like when you're meditating to clear your mind (I do this before tulpaforcing),

That's definitely more of the sort of thing I tend to think of when I think of meditation

There's a very good article on it from Sam Harris that goes into it: https://samharris.org/how-to-meditate/ -- when I was taking my cogneuro classes, I found some neat studies about this. Meditation even seems to grow new braincells and stuff.

How to Meditate | Sam Harris

There are many forms of introspection and mental training that go by the name of “meditation,” and I have studied several over the years. As I occasionally speak about the benefits of these practices, people often write to ask which I recommend. Given my primary audience...

2:33 AM

As I was mentioning in the #lounge earlier, I actually started incorporating mindfulness into tulpaforcing. Instead of guiding my concentration back to breathing when I start to lose focus, I instead guide it back to Chess or Mel so we can go back to wonderland stuff.